REWIND: Authors publish new edition of UFO book

James Fenton
Scott and Susan Ramsey, stand for a photo in March at a plaque they placed to mark the "UFO Aztec Incident" at Hart Canyon near Aztec.

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FARMINGTON — For UFO authors Scott and Suzanne Ramsey, the truth is still out there.

After self-publishing their 2012 book, "The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon," the couple along with Frank Thayer have just published a new expanded edition, released by New Jersey publisher New Page Books on Dec. 14, with a longer title, "The Aztec UFO Incident — The Case, Evidence and Elaborate Cover-up of One of the Most Perplexing Crashes in History."

Scott Ramsey said during a phone interview on Monday from the couple's home in North Carolina that they are still adding to the 1948 flying saucer story that has captivated them since the late 1980s.

"When we self-published our book, within a year we had more people knocking on our door with new information," Scott Ramsey said. We're still getting leads. And when I first heard about (the Aztec UFO), I said, 'I'll have this whole thing figured out in 16 months tops.' That was late 1986. I was a young guy back then."

As reported in The Daily Times in March, the Ramseys last returned to Aztec to visit the site of the fabled flying saucer crash in Hart Canyon, about eight miles northeast of Aztec. The couple installed a plaque where they are convinced a UFO came down in Hart Canyon in 2012.

"The spacecraft was approximately 100 feet in diameter and 18 feet tall. It was one of the most intact crafts that the government had recovered at that time. Sadly, all occupants, as many as 16, died as a result of this crash, making the full disclosure of both purpose and origin all but impossible," the sign reads.

Initial witnesses responding to a reported brush fire near drip tanks in the canyon described seeing a "lens-shaped disc" and after peering inside the saucer, "several child-size bodies in form-fitting jumpsuits, slumped over a control panel and charred 'like fried ducks,'" according to the book.

The Ramseys plan on returning again next year on Mar. 25 to mark the 68th year since the flying saucer allegedly crashed atop a mesa in Hart Canyon.

They met when Suzanne Ramsey invited Scott Ramsey to speak on her Farmington radio show in 2001 about his research and she was intrigued by her future husband's ardent pursuit of historical research, she said. For 26 years, the two have followed an "investigative journey" that has taken them through 28 states, poring over 55,000 FBI, CIA and other related documents at a personal cost of than $500,000, Scott Ramsey said.

Scott Ramsey, talks on March 27 about where a flying saucer most likely crashed during the 'Aztec Incident' of 1948 at Hart Canyon in Aztec.

And still, the crash continues to provide more and more leads, the couple says. They are considering spending the next few years continuing to gather more and more leads and evidence and releasing a third edition on their latest findings.

"I don't care where the answers lead, I just want to know the truth," Suzanne Ramsey said. "We just love gathering facts. It's the greatest treasure hunt. It's been a challenge on our marriage, our time, money and energy. But we really enjoy it. Life's never boring."

While a better known purported brush with aliens in New Mexico came eight months earlier in Roswell, the Ramseys said the hunt for new leads keeps them going, all while they each run separate businesses — Scott Ramsey has a wire supply business and Suzanne has a company that sells root beer. They live on and operate a farm, the third of their many enterprises.

But the Ramseys say that what really drives their interest in the event has very little to do with aliens from outer space — it's history and research, not the tin foil hat crowd.

"If somebody says they lived in Aztec, we pull the tax records. It's a lot of detective work," Scott Ramsey said. "You watch these new UFO shows, there’s only a handful of people doing real research. The majority of the people are just doing fluff. We’re trying to do legitimate historical research."

One of the Ramsey's closer readers, former college professor and accountant Monte Shriver, spent about a year researching the fabled crash near Aztec after first reading their 2012 book. the work resulted in his self-publishing his own book in response to "The Aztec Incident," called  "It's About Time."

"I don't deny that there are things called UFOs, but they're just what they're called, unidentifiable flying objects," Shriver said on Monday from his home in Las Cruces. "I still disagree about many of their conclusions."

He said he has personally witnessed three UFOs — all of them near his Las Cruces home — over the last decade, but finds little credible evidence of verifiable alien life as presented in the Ramseys' new edition.

He's even part of the Ramsey's new book.

"They call me a 'sincere skeptic,'" Shriver said. "They were very nice to me."

Shriver plans on rebutting many of the conclusions in the Ramsey's new book at a San Juan County Historical meeting in April at the Aztec Senior and Community Center, roughly a week after the UFO crash anniversary brings the Ramseys out from North Carolina.

"Maybe they'll be there the same time I am," Shriver said. "That would be pretty interesting and fun. We'll see."

James Fenton is the business editor of The Daily Times. He can be reached at 505-564-4621.